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	<description>Trouble With Classical Music</description>
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		<title>By: Meryl333</title>
		<link>http://properdiscord.com/2010/02/09/10-cliches-of-classical-music-journalism/#comment-1276</link>
		<dc:creator>Meryl333</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 14:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You said it. You took a prime opportunity to get all ranty without offering any useful commentary.  I could given my full attention to listening to Bach. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You said it. You took a prime opportunity to get all ranty without offering any useful commentary.  I could given my full attention to listening to Bach. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Bachlund</title>
		<link>http://properdiscord.com/2010/02/09/10-cliches-of-classical-music-journalism/#comment-564</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Bachlund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 10:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Nobody owes classical musicians a living.&quot; What a refreshing and honest assertion. I agree that classical music is doing just fine, progressing down its own paths, with new musicians adding to the repertoire in a variety of interesting ways. Attending the funeral Lebrecht wants to hold sounds just so silly. But then Lebrecht wanted to sell his book, didn&#039;t he? So many ways to cry fire in a crowded theater. Music lives, grows and prospers according to its own ways. And it is agreed, not only by me but by a hard world, &quot;nobody owes classical musicians a living.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Nobody owes classical musicians a living.&#8221; What a refreshing and honest assertion. I agree that classical music is doing just fine, progressing down its own paths, with new musicians adding to the repertoire in a variety of interesting ways. Attending the funeral Lebrecht wants to hold sounds just so silly. But then Lebrecht wanted to sell his book, didn&#8217;t he? So many ways to cry fire in a crowded theater. Music lives, grows and prospers according to its own ways. And it is agreed, not only by me but by a hard world, &#8220;nobody owes classical musicians a living.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: louisrichards</title>
		<link>http://properdiscord.com/2010/02/09/10-cliches-of-classical-music-journalism/#comment-314</link>
		<dc:creator>louisrichards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 14:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Curiously, following the Bolshevik revolution, it was attempted to have a Symphony Orchestra - without a conductor...

At the first rehearsal evenything went smoothly: the oboist sounded Concert A, the players tuned-up and then all looked toward ... the Concert Master; it seems that, even in this most egalitarian of ensembles, someone needed to indicate when to begin!

Thus, that little &quot;experiment&quot; had a brief &amp; unremarkable life...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curiously, following the Bolshevik revolution, it was attempted to have a Symphony Orchestra &#8211; without a conductor&#8230;</p>
<p>At the first rehearsal evenything went smoothly: the oboist sounded Concert A, the players tuned-up and then all looked toward &#8230; the Concert Master; it seems that, even in this most egalitarian of ensembles, someone needed to indicate when to begin!</p>
<p>Thus, that little &#8220;experiment&#8221; had a brief &amp; unremarkable life&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: properdiscord</title>
		<link>http://properdiscord.com/2010/02/09/10-cliches-of-classical-music-journalism/#comment-313</link>
		<dc:creator>properdiscord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 01:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m pretty sure it&#039;s the communists that are destroying classical music. I mean, really, what could be more unamerican than a non-profit organization?

Does anybody else think that Sarah Palin would make a good McCarthy-style witch hunter general?

&quot;I saw Goody Proctor dancing with the NEA!&quot;

Youbetcha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure it&#8217;s the communists that are destroying classical music. I mean, really, what could be more unamerican than a non-profit organization?</p>
<p>Does anybody else think that Sarah Palin would make a good McCarthy-style witch hunter general?</p>
<p>&#8220;I saw Goody Proctor dancing with the NEA!&#8221;</p>
<p>Youbetcha.</p>
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		<title>By: louisrichards</title>
		<link>http://properdiscord.com/2010/02/09/10-cliches-of-classical-music-journalism/#comment-300</link>
		<dc:creator>louisrichards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 22:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lang Lang? I was less than “impressed”; perhaps because the build-up was simply too great to satisfy my expectations; too, I found his body movements exceedingly distracting. I could only enjoy the concert by listening with my eyes closed.

With regard to the demon, Technology, I remember the early days when the objective of “stereo” sound was to capture, as closely as possible, the sound of a performance. Nowadays, musicians can create so much layering in the “studio” it is almost impossible to recreate the same sound in a “live” performance. It was sometime in the 80s when the artist, formerly known as Prince, released an album on which he played ALL the instruments; try recreating THAT in a “live” show!

What should actually be the topic under discussion is: Ethics in Musical Performance &amp; Recording.

As for the Death of Classical Music, well I have been hearing that litany for over half-a-century; yet, no one has even prepared the coffin, so I think announcing a wake is certainly premature.

“Art”, in both high and low forms, has existed for millennia. Most often, it is the High form that continues through the centuries; though the Low form can certainly influence the High form. A perfect example of that is the (once) Popular Tune “L&#039;homme arme”, which was so celebrated by the public it was incorporated into several Renaissance masses. Though we continue to hear the masses, nobody is singing the popular tune; a similar comparison can be made with Copland&#039;s “Old American Songs”. When was the last time you heard someone belt-out the “popular” versions of the melodies that comprise “The Boatman&#039;s Dance” or “The Dodger”? Never, would be the correct answer.

Record Companies and Symphony Orchestras may be in difficult financial straits, but, they will consolidate – not evaporate. 

I contribute to this problem. Over the years I can&#039;t begin to tell you how many Beethoven Fifths I have purchased: 12 inch vinyl, various cassette forms and now digital. To hell with that! I borrow them from my public library now and rip them into MP3s for FREE; the recording industry has gotten all they&#039;re gonna get from me for the same recording produced in a different form.

“Technology” may well change how we enjoy the Arts, but it will not erase them. One day (soon probably) we will sit in front of our 75 inch TV screens and listen to Philharmonic concerts via our 5000 watt speakers without the interruption of crying babies or the person behind you coughing on the back of your neck.

As I said, for over 50 years I have been hearing that the “Sky is Falling”! And, lets not forget, “There&#039;s a Commie behind EVERY Tree”! 

Fuggedaboutit ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lang Lang? I was less than “impressed”; perhaps because the build-up was simply too great to satisfy my expectations; too, I found his body movements exceedingly distracting. I could only enjoy the concert by listening with my eyes closed.</p>
<p>With regard to the demon, Technology, I remember the early days when the objective of “stereo” sound was to capture, as closely as possible, the sound of a performance. Nowadays, musicians can create so much layering in the “studio” it is almost impossible to recreate the same sound in a “live” performance. It was sometime in the 80s when the artist, formerly known as Prince, released an album on which he played ALL the instruments; try recreating THAT in a “live” show!</p>
<p>What should actually be the topic under discussion is: Ethics in Musical Performance &amp; Recording.</p>
<p>As for the Death of Classical Music, well I have been hearing that litany for over half-a-century; yet, no one has even prepared the coffin, so I think announcing a wake is certainly premature.</p>
<p>“Art”, in both high and low forms, has existed for millennia. Most often, it is the High form that continues through the centuries; though the Low form can certainly influence the High form. A perfect example of that is the (once) Popular Tune “L&#8217;homme arme”, which was so celebrated by the public it was incorporated into several Renaissance masses. Though we continue to hear the masses, nobody is singing the popular tune; a similar comparison can be made with Copland&#8217;s “Old American Songs”. When was the last time you heard someone belt-out the “popular” versions of the melodies that comprise “The Boatman&#8217;s Dance” or “The Dodger”? Never, would be the correct answer.</p>
<p>Record Companies and Symphony Orchestras may be in difficult financial straits, but, they will consolidate – not evaporate. </p>
<p>I contribute to this problem. Over the years I can&#8217;t begin to tell you how many Beethoven Fifths I have purchased: 12 inch vinyl, various cassette forms and now digital. To hell with that! I borrow them from my public library now and rip them into MP3s for FREE; the recording industry has gotten all they&#8217;re gonna get from me for the same recording produced in a different form.</p>
<p>“Technology” may well change how we enjoy the Arts, but it will not erase them. One day (soon probably) we will sit in front of our 75 inch TV screens and listen to Philharmonic concerts via our 5000 watt speakers without the interruption of crying babies or the person behind you coughing on the back of your neck.</p>
<p>As I said, for over 50 years I have been hearing that the “Sky is Falling”! And, lets not forget, “There&#8217;s a Commie behind EVERY Tree”! </p>
<p>Fuggedaboutit &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: properdiscord</title>
		<link>http://properdiscord.com/2010/02/09/10-cliches-of-classical-music-journalism/#comment-283</link>
		<dc:creator>properdiscord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 23:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>10/10 for the graphics.</description>
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		<title>By: properdiscord</title>
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		<dc:creator>properdiscord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are you saying? That Meatloaf wasn&#039;t the first choice? Surely not!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are you saying? That Meatloaf wasn&#8217;t the first choice? Surely not!</p>
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		<title>By: Diane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting that last years winner of America&#039;s Got Talent was an opera singer, and this years 2nd place was an opera singer.  Their singing was visceral, the music profound, and people respond when they are moved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that last years winner of America&#8217;s Got Talent was an opera singer, and this years 2nd place was an opera singer.  Their singing was visceral, the music profound, and people respond when they are moved.</p>
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		<title>By: Poop to Not Poop Ratios &#171; Sound Directions</title>
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		<dc:creator>Poop to Not Poop Ratios &#171; Sound Directions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] wrong with being a niche market? Think about it, but also think about the following quote from this mostly Not Poop post via the Proper Discord blog: &#8220;All too often, we confuse &#8216;niche&#8217; with [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] wrong with being a niche market? Think about it, but also think about the following quote from this mostly Not Poop post via the Proper Discord blog: &#8220;All too often, we confuse &#8216;niche&#8217; with [...]</p>
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		<title>By: properdiscord</title>
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		<dc:creator>properdiscord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for contributing to the discussion.

Does it matter who paid Lang Lang? If nobody buys classical music any more, they&#039;re never going to see their money again.

I&#039;m not against new technology at all - I&#039;m just tired of reading about products that promise to solve non-existent problems. Paper programs are pretty effective if you leave the lights (or candles) on.

A whole bunch of people thought Joshua Bell&#039;s busking was newsworthy enough to set up, write about, and print. A slow news day isn&#039;t an excuse for anything. Perhaps this article was a bad example, though. I could have gone with any number of &quot;classical musician also has rock on his iPod&quot; stories.

Nobody owes classical musicians a living. They have to earn it by creating beautiful things that affect people&#039;s lives. Exactly what that means is a moving target. It always has been. In the past, we&#039;ve called it progress.

The &quot;young people stop buying music&quot; story has been written, many times.

I&#039;ll own up to inconsistent, but I don&#039;t see where I&#039;ve contradicted myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for contributing to the discussion.</p>
<p>Does it matter who paid Lang Lang? If nobody buys classical music any more, they&#8217;re never going to see their money again.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not against new technology at all &#8211; I&#8217;m just tired of reading about products that promise to solve non-existent problems. Paper programs are pretty effective if you leave the lights (or candles) on.</p>
<p>A whole bunch of people thought Joshua Bell&#8217;s busking was newsworthy enough to set up, write about, and print. A slow news day isn&#8217;t an excuse for anything. Perhaps this article was a bad example, though. I could have gone with any number of &#8220;classical musician also has rock on his iPod&#8221; stories.</p>
<p>Nobody owes classical musicians a living. They have to earn it by creating beautiful things that affect people&#8217;s lives. Exactly what that means is a moving target. It always has been. In the past, we&#8217;ve called it progress.</p>
<p>The &#8220;young people stop buying music&#8221; story has been written, many times.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll own up to inconsistent, but I don&#8217;t see where I&#8217;ve contradicted myself.</p>
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